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title: "Cal Fussman's interview practice"
description: "How Cal retrained Alex to interview by being comfortable."
canonical: https://tomsharman.com/bookshelf/the-third-door/cal-fussmans-interview-practice/
updated: 2026-11-03
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# Cal Fussman's interview practice

> How Cal retrained Alex to interview by being comfortable.

Alex Banayan's framework, from The Third Door, pp. 134 to 186.

Framework 9 of 11 from [The Third Door](https://tomsharman.com/bookshelf/the-third-door/index.md) by Alex Banayan. Category: Life and thinking.

## The steps

1. **Do not treat it as an interview.** Sit at the table, eat breakfast and relax.
2. **Leave the notepad at home.** Bring only the recorder.
3. **Let curiosity ask the questions.** Follow what you genuinely want to know.

## Where it comes from

From chapter: Step 4: Trudge Through the Mud, pp. 134–186

## The animation

24 seconds, 4:5, no sound.

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